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Dr. Noel Liu:
Welcome to the Secure Dental Podcast. Through conversations with the brightest minds in the dental and business communities, we'll share practical tips you can use to scale your practice and create financial freedom for yourself and your family. My name is Dr. Noah Liu, CEO and Dentist at Secure Dental, and also co-founder of DentVia. I'm your host for the Secure podcast and I'm so glad you're joining in.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Welcome again to another episode of our Secure Dental podcast, where we bring great individuals from different areas of dentistry into this podcast platform. And today we are joined by Dr. Youngsam Kim from Korea. It's an honor to have this gentleman here because he is world-renowned, and Dr. Kim is a prominent instructor on wisdom tooth extraction and dental implant surgery. He is internationally known and travels all over the world providing lectures on safe and efficient methods of thermal extraction and dental implants. He is a published author of several books, including Extraction of Third Molars, Easy, Simple, Safe, Efficient, Minimally Invasive, and Atraumatic in 2018, which has currently been published in five different languages. He is also an author of ESSE Mastering Dental Implants 2021. So with that being said, Dr. Kim, welcome.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
Thank you. Yeah, thank you for inviting me. Yeah. So my introduction is too long.
Dr. Noel Liu:
No, I like it because this really tells a lot about what you have done and it tells about your credentials and where you stand. So tell us a little bit about how you got started. I mean, that is a lot of training, a lot of surgical procedures, and a lot of hard work that you did. We would like to know, like, how you got started.
Dr. Kang:
So he's going to speak in Korean and I'm going to translate for him.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Absolutely.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
I feel shy. Yeah.
Dr. Noel Liu:
No. Doctor Kim, you can speak in Korean. No, no, no. Korean. No problem.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
So he actually started doing the surgery because he doesn't like doing those feelings or the crown works. And his main focus was more like on the surgery stuff rather than those restoration stuff. So that's why he eventually started in the first place.
Dr. Noel Liu:
This is great, because a lot of times we find individuals, once they graduate from dental school, they find their niche there, right? Somebody likes indo, somebody likes ortho, and if somebody likes implant, there is no specialty. So what he's done is he's created like this niche of dentistry. And many people are just following his path. And I love the fact that he's doing this and he's opening up doorways for many young dentists. So I really honor him for that part. Dr. Kim, what year did you graduate from dental school?
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
2000. 2000 or 1999?
Dr. Kang:
'99.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Wow. And then from there, was it like something where you just figured out you want to do just implants? Or was it like you worked as a general dentist?
Dr. Kang:
So after the graduation, for 15 years, he kept doing those crowns, restoration. But it was about 15 years ago that he started to transition to those surgeries stuff.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Oh, excellent. Excellent.
Dr. Kang:
During those 15 years, he kept doing those crowns and restoration. But he, for those times, he was more focused on the surgery stuff as well.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Gotcha. I always like the fact that if anybody who is starting and they have a passion for something, and when they take that passion and they create it, they make a career out of it. They are always the best at the field at that time because it's passion that's driving them.
Dr. Noel Liu:
So what were some of the challenges? Because a lot of times audience, they like to hear some of the challenges that you went through to get to the level that you are right now. And how was the path? Was it very easy or was it very bumpy?
Dr. Kang:
So when he first started, it wasn't so easy because he's a general dentist. But people weren't really nice to him because he's a general dentist teaching these surgical extractions, surgical implants. So in the first place, there was some of the challenges that he had.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Oh, wow. And when did he started with the academic portion?
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
Ten years. Yeah.
Dr. Kang:
Yeah, about ten years ago, he started.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Wow. As a business and entrepreneur myself, I can understand some of the challenges that he went through. Because, Dr. Kim, is not easy for you to go through so much stuff and still pass through all the noise. So as far as the training is concerned, let's talk a little bit about the training. Before we dive into that, let's move one step back. Are you still practicing, besides training other dentists?
Dr. Kang:
He is still practicing in Korea about the dentistry only because he wants to make his lectures live and alive. Because he doesn't want to become like one of those retired dentists teaching those old stuff. It's not connecting really practical and clinical.
Dr. Noel Liu:
That is so huge.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
... Improving now.
Dr. Noel Liu:
That's great, Dr. Kim, because one of the things that I've always learned was if, learn from the best who's actually still doing it, and because you are doing it, I think that is like a huge plus, because a lot of times there's many gurus out there who are actually teaching, but they're not practicing. And you practicing, I think that shows a lot of dedication.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
And then teaching is making me, teaching is, it makes me improve, improve my skill. Yeah.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Yes. Because I like also the fact see, one thing is you're practicing, one thing is you're teaching. And when you teach, you are taking your knowledge, you're passing it on to the young dentist. So many times, people who actually learn something, they want to be selfish. They don't want to pass it along. So what you're doing is I think it's marvelous at helping out many people. So as far as your teaching is concerned, do you teach like all over the world? I see you come here, what, twice a year or three times a year in the United States?
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
More than.
Dr. Noel Liu:
More than that? Okay. Wow, wow.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
... Eight times? Yeah.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Eight times!?
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
I say the, half of my years, yeah. I had, the 11 time is alive. So the course in Tejana in this year.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Wow. Wow.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
11 times.
Dr. Noel Liu:
So, Dr. Kim, besides the United States, where else do you travel to teach courses?
Dr. Kang:
In the beginning of the year and end of the year, he is mostly in Korea. On the, during the other times, he's in other countries and...
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
Next year, exterior: Japan and New Zealand, Australia, Singapore.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Wow.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
And Mongolia and the Canada, USA, Deutschland, Italia, England and, Norway, Norway.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Oh, Wow. It's very impressive.
Dr. Kang:
Those nations are only the ones that are confirmed now. There might be more in the future, for the next year.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Dr. Kim, what is it that passionates you with teaching and learning? What is the engine? What is the motive? What is the drive force behind it? The why? Behind like what you like to do? I can see passion. I can sense a lot of passion in you. What do you attribute your success and your why to when you're teaching all around the world? Because many people would not want to do even one country and yet alone you're doing so many countries.
Dr. Kang:
He's actually doing it because all the reviews from the students are actually pretty nice, and it's kind of motivating them.
Dr. Kang:
Mostly his patients in Korea are not actually just any people, but they are like family members of the dentists, like father and mother. So most of his patients poles are those kind of people.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Wow.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
Yeah, Korea has, implant competition is fierce. It's terrible. But yeah, my implant price a little bit higher than other dentists.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Okay.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
That's why that, half of my implant patient, that dentist.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Family. Yeah. So you are the VIP, you are the VIP dentist.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
How many dentists introduce their parents to me. Yeah. That's why I love Korean dentistr.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Right. So you said that there's a lot of challenges and there's a lot of competition in Korea, right? What were, again, I'm going to go back to the challenges. How difficult was it for you to rise above the noise?
Dr. Kang:
He's actually a very renowned in the wisdom teeth extraction. There are many GPS-holding implant seminars and stuff, but he is, the Dr. Kim is like the, not the only, but the most renowned and like, kind of like the only lecturer who does the wisdom teeth extraction. So that's how he was able to go through the noise. But then at the same time, more he went up, up, up, up, there was people just getting more noises and noises. So he's just trying to go through those right now.
Dr. Noel Liu:
I think he's doing a marvelous job doing it.
Dr. Kang:
It's funny because he's very renowned in wisdom teeth extraction, but still, there are a lot of people who don't believe him. So actually, very many dentists who wants to shadow him in Korea. So there's at least 200 to 300 dentists shadowing him in Korea every year.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Wow.
Dr. Kang:
To witness it.
Dr. Noel Liu:
That's impressive. And see, here's the thing. You cannot make anybody, you cannot satisfy everyone, right? You always take the followers and the lead people who are actually part of your group, and you take them and you run with them. And I think, Dr. Kim, you've done a marvelous job, which you've been doing. So let's fast forward to current situation, right? You guys are in Mexico. Now, so what's going on over there?
Dr. Kang:
Right now, Dr. Kim's teaching us about the wisdom tooth extraction. So if we get the patients, we also place the implants. Yesterday, I placed two implants and I did some wisdom teeth extraction. And all the wisdom teeth extraction that we are learning right now, they're not like this or like or something like that. No, they're like more like this with the impaction like this. Right now, he's teaching us about how to section properly, where production, how far we should go and how to emulate the stuff, more like the practical and the clinical aspects of the reason people chanting right now.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Great, great.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
It's a trial course for the...
Dr. Kang:
So as of right now, he doesn't really, he usually, most of these courses are the implant courses only because it's actually kind of hard to get those wisdom teeth extraction patients. As of right now, this course majorly focuses on the wisdom teeth extraction because, and it's like a trial course. He just wants to see how well we can collect those patients for the future courses. So that's what we are majorly focusing right now.
Dr. Kang:
And also from this course, he also wants to see how long it's going to be taking for each students to take things. He wants to have some average time, some nice data, so that he can prepare very nicely for the next student as well.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Very nice, very nice. So you've been currently with Dr. Kim for about, what, two years? Two and a half, three years?
Speaker4:
For me. Yeah. I started going to his lectures since when I was third year in dental school.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Okay.
Dr. Kang:
Yes. It has been about two, three years since I've known him.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Nice. How did you hear about Doctor Kim in third year?
Dr. Kang:
In the third year? How I heard about Dr. Kim? Well, I had my brother, Dr. Chang. He is my older brother. He doesn't lie to me much.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
You know, you resemble your brother in skin.
Dr. Kang:
He, when he gives me advices, it's actually those really good advices that he had to go through the trial and error. That's why I believe him. He, most first time he went to Dr. Kim's lecture and he knew about, I didn't know about Dr. Kim back then to be honest. But then my brother, he told me that he's a great guy I should learn from because he went to his live surgery course, and then right after, he knew how to place an implant. So I was like, how did you do it? I want to place implants too. How should I learn it? I want to learn the proper way. And my brother told me, You should go to Dr. Kim's course. It's great. You go once. After that, you'll know how to place implants. And I was like, I didn't believe it. I didn't know Dr. Kim. I'm sorry, Dr. Kim, but.
Dr. Noel Liu:
No, that's great.
Dr. Kang:
They said he's a celebrity, but I didn't really care much about it. But I went there and it's not just me, but everyone who went to his implant course, by the end of the course, they were all able to place very nice implants. And it was shocking to me. It was shocking to the other people and it was shocking to other faculty members as well. Since then, I have built my trust in Dr. Kim, and I kept going to his courses. And every time I go, I learn more. It's just very awesome.
Dr. Noel Liu:
That's such a great honor. Because here's my thing. I think Dr. Kim, what he's accomplished is through his passion and his love for implant dentistry. Because anytime, like myself, I like to mentor my doctors, right? I do it with passion and I can see that passion in Dr. Kim. So when he does it with passion, it's going to be a great, great success. Now, so since you are there right now, you've almost done right, almost done for the course?
Dr. Kang:
Also, we're going to be going tomorrow.
Dr. Kang:
Tomorrow. Okay. So on a scale of 1 to 10, ten being like really confident, what do you feel like after this course?
Dr. Kang:
After this course? Are we talking about wisdom teeth extraction?
Dr. Noel Liu:
Yes, the wisdom tooth extraction.
Dr. Kang:
So as of right now, I'm pretty confident in the wisdom teeth extraction, but not the impacted one, because those are.
Dr. Noel Liu:
That's fair. It takes some experience.
Dr. Kang:
Exactly. So before attending to this seminar, my confidence in the impacted wisdom teeth extraction would be like, with all honesty, I'd say three. But as of yesterday, I learned a lot. So as of right now, my confidence kind of doubled up to 5 or 6. And I'm pretty sure at the end of this course it's going to go up to seven, eight. Then, you know, to reach it to ten I'll have to practice by myself.
Dr. Noel Liu:
You have to practice. Yes. So, Dr. Kim, what do you think about people coming out of your course? How important is practice?
Dr. Kang:
He thinks that it's very important to start early.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Okay.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
And safely.
Dr. Noel Liu:
And safely. I love that.
Dr. Kang:
You don't want to, like, go like, very fast, but then, at the same time, you don't want to start late as well. Earlier you start, better it is because you told me that you got to improve your views, your perspective. You got to know what's good imlant, what is not a good implant. So that's why you want to start early as well.
Dr. Noel Liu:
That's such a good point. For me, one of the reasons I wanted Dr. Kim on my podcast was because I saw Dr. Roux, I saw Dr. Kim, like previous Kim I had, then I had your brother, then we had two other doctors who went to, Dr. Kim, your course, and they were very, very impressed. If I can attest to so many of my doctors just having just positive five-star reviews for you, I think you are doing something right. And I feel like this is going to be helping out so many more new doctors coming along the way. As a D4 coming out of school, Dr. Kim, what is your biggest advice for them who are wanting to learn dentistry? They have to learn how the basic dentistry like the crown and fillings, but at the same time they also want to do implants. What is your advice for them?
Dr. Kang:
He doesn't want to insult the school, but ... time all before the teeth force, you need to learn from the outside of the school only because.
Dr. Noel Liu:
I agree. 100%.
Dr. Kang:
The school stuff, it might not be right for you. Exactly. There are many techniques, many faculties, many teachers, and you need to find which one's right for you. It's not necessarily the school's teaching that might be right for you. It might be. It might not be. So it's always better to have as many learning options as possible. So you need to convince these students to visit the other lectures outside the school as well.
Dr. Noel Liu:
I completely agree because here's my take on school. School is great, but many times the faculties are there just teaching and they're not, in the real world, actually doing it, right? So they're out of practice. Not saying everybody, but most of them, right? And most of these guys, they have like, their techniques are very, very old. And it does not apply to the new age at all. So one thing I really respect, Dr. Kim, is that he is actually practicing and he is always advancing and he is learning himself. He's learning and then he's passing on the knowledge. So it's like he's not only doing research, but he's also doing trial and error, and he's taking everything that he's learning, and he's providing the best outcome that it can help other people. So I completely agree with him. The school may not be the best education in terms of implants and trying to get that experience, but I feel like he's 100% spot on that. You have to learn outside school. Last question, Dr. Kim. What is the future of GIA?
Dr. Kang:
As of right now, he's traveling all around the world to teach the people. But eventually, he wants to have this one stable place where people can gather up, people can visit, and learn about the dentistry. So as of right now, that's the goal of the GIA and also Dr. Kim as well.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
I have one more mission.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
Yes.
Dr. Kang:
So as of right now, he would look for the wisdom tooth extraction and the clinical aspect of the implant. But then, he's so, as of right now, he has three topics about his lectures. One is the wisdom teeth extraction, the other one is the clinical aspect of the extraction, and the other one is mastering the implant. He does have the books for the wisdom teeth extraction and the clinical aspect of it.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
No, no, no. Mastering implant.
Dr. Kang:
Mastering implant. But he doesn't have the book for the clinical aspect. So right now, one of his goals is to write the book for the clinical aspect for the implant as well, by the winter, as well.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
As clinical aspect of implant is that my best topic for the student. Yeah. That's why I'm writing my third book.
Dr. Kang:
So he is a clinician and an academian at the same time.
Dr. Noel Liu:
I love it. I love it. Very few people like that, right? Most of them are academic or clinicians. But you are both. Dr. Kim, it was such an honor. I would really, really love to collaborate with you if you ever, ever wanted to do something in the United States for any kind of implant base that you are seeking. So if I can be of any assistance, definitely reach out, let me know. It would be a great pleasure and a great honor. At the same time, where can people find you? And if there is some sort of a link, we can definitely post it. Dr. Kang, you can give us a link.
Dr. Kang:
Yeah, of course.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Right so and any of your books. Yeah. Any of the books where people can reach out and maybe even get a hold of your course, your amazing course. We definitely would like to reach that out as well. Dr. Kim, with that being said, is there any last-minute statement or anything you would like to make before we end?
Dr. Kang:
My message to.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
My Instagram ... @YoungSamKimDDS. Y O U N G S A M K I M D D S.
Dr. Noel Liu:
DDS.
Dr. Kang:
So most of his courses and all the information are on his Instagram, so make sure to follow his Instagram.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Instagram is YoungSamKimDDS, right?
Dr. Kang:
Yes.
Dr. Noel Liu:
Good. We'll definitely put the link down and so people can follow you. I will start following you. And it was a great pleasure having you, and having you too, Dr. Kang. Thank you very much. Well, this brings us to our last part of our Secure Dental podcast. Make sure you like and subscribe. We will see you guys at the next episode. Thank you again.
Dr. Kang:
Thank you.
Dr. Youngsam Kim:
Thank you.
Dr. Noel Liu:
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